Andres Duany Opening Presentation on Urbanism and aging in Atlanta, 2/11/09 Atlanta
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Sunday, March 15, 2009
Glenwood Park, Atlanta
Photo by Valerie
Watson
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ARC Lifelong Communities Charrette Andres Duany Opening Presentation, 2/11/09Andres starts at 5:30
"Prior to 1950, there were no retirement communities in the world" 08:35
It's not Seaside..."everything is about retrofitting suburban sprawl. 10:00
Housing went out first , retailers moved out independently 10 years later and be cause it moved out separately it landed separately; retail and housing were no longer integrated... shopping centers had a curtailed edge so you couldn't even walk to them. 17:00 - 19:00
Essentially there is no choice in the suburbs. Everybody has the same lifestyle...Everybody drives everywhere for everything... 18:30
In the '80's the business park was invented - where you have lunchtime congestion - you have to drive to lunch.
Suburbia works only for people in their middle years, with enough money to buy one car per adult. 29:45
Traffic congestion make driving really a bore... 30:30
Everybody thinks that developers always had a bad name. Developers are like the most embarrassing thing you can have as a dad for example. That wasn't always so. 47:30
ARC Lifelong Communities Charrette Andres Duany Design Review, 2/14/09 Andres starts at 2:12
- (can a young person now be stolen from you - young talent - by Portland? Portland - end of the world - ... I can't tell you how awful it is...bad weather...why would you want to be there... no Portland is a hot place... 17:40
- go to the good places; watch and observe 38:40
- The alley is a very nice social space where you can be messier...guys especially have no male space in the American House 40:53
- The trick of designing open space is what's around it. You can build the most beautiful park in the world and if the edges are dead, the park is dead and unsafe. 51:30
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Spaceship landings surrouded by parking. 53:07
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Temp stop Mableton 57:45
NORC - Naturally Occurring Retirement Community
Millennials - Grew up in the suburbs and for them the suburbs have no magic. The did the mall, they did the cul-de-sac and they love cities. 35:35
http://www.monumentalmedia.com/arc/lifelong_charrette/duany_opening/
From Ellen Dunham-Jones, author of "Retrofitting Suburbia: Urban Design Solutions for Redesigning Suburbs" April 16, 2009
"Drive 'til you qualify" for a home loan - current model or affordable home ownership.
A "drive-to" walkable experience. Belmar's Lakewood Colorado
"Grayfield" - the parking lot around a dead or dying mall. A place or new urban redevelopment / retrofit
"Spin Farming" "S-mall P-lot IN-tensive" urban farming
"Reinhabitation" - dead malls reinvigorated often by immagrant communities. Burford Highway in Atlanta. Also by gentrifying.
Instant Urbanism, Faux Urbanism. Seaside, Disneyworld, Atlantic Station, Glenwood Park. A critisim. "real" urbanism take time. Ms. Dunham-Jones says that some of the best of "old urabanism" was built over a very brief period.
Flexibility of the Grid - New Yorks grid has worked for everything, every density, and every period. It's the most flexible persion.
Fist Fights over Everything. It's very hard.
Edge Cities.
Leap Frogging. Most "inner" suburbs and malls have been leap frogged by more distant suburbs and malls. The more distant ones get leapfrogged again. Most inner suburbs decline. Now the inner suburbs are more central and (denser, closer to transportation) ripe for retrofitting.
Think Northlake (still in decent shape), Gwinnet Place, then Mall of Georgia.
The suburbs dominate job growth.
